Million Dollar Reload
released two successful studio albums and a live album, toured across Europe and
the USA and played Download on three occasions. They had been signed to Classic
Rock’s Powerage record label and later to Frontiers Records at various times.
Last year they started to move in a new direction and those plans came to
fruition on 15th August when the band announced their new name mid-set and
released a new four track EP as Blackwater Conspiracy.
Three tracks from that EP
can be heard on the Friday NI Rocks Show on 21st August at 9pm along with the
interview with Phil. That Show is available now from the On Demand Player –
http://www.rockradioni.co.uk/hosts/ni-rocks-friday-rock-show.html
- the show uploaded on 17th August. The interview has been transcribed and
published below.
Blackwater Conspiracy are Phil
Conalane on vocals / guitar, Brian “BAM” Mallon on lead guitar, Kie McMurray on
bass, Fionn O’Haigan on drums and Kevin Brennan on
piano/keyboard.
NI
ROCKS – Hi Phil, thanks
for taking some time to talk to Rock Radio NI. We’ve talked about recording an
interview for some time and it’s ironic that we get around to doing it tonight.
You’re going on stage in a few hours for the last time as Million Dollar Reload
and by the time this show is uploaded you’ll have revealed a new name and new
EP. Are there mixed emotions there or is it all about moving
forward?
PHIL – Absolutely about moving forward. There are no
regrets; it couldn’t have come quick enough for us. We’re ready for this, we’re
happy that it’s over and we’re ready to move on. We should have done it a while
ago but circumstances prevented us from doing that, contractual stuff, blah blah
blah, but that’s all done now and we’re ready to move. Can’t
wait.
NI
ROCKS – The new band
name. Tell us what it is and why you picked it?
PHIL – Blackwater Conspiracy. We specifically went for
that name because we all live pretty much on the River Blackwater in Tyrone and
the other two guys from Co Derry / Londonderry, the Blackwater stretches that
far as well. We just wanted something that was a little bit more authentic and
the Conspiracy thing is just the best match for us..
NI
ROCKS – And it sounds
very rock n roll!
PHIL – Well it sounds rock n roll, but unfortunately it
means something else in America, but we’re not too concerned about that for the
moment. So it’s Blackwater Conspiracy.
NI
ROCKS – Have you the
new website and social media sites ready to go?
NI
ROCKS – Is the old
Million Dollar Reload page transforming or is it being left
behind?
PHIL – The Facebook page will be left for a little
while. The dot com page will be left until it expires organically. All the new
pages are ready to go.
NI
ROCKS – Tonight you’re
also launching a new EP. Are those some of the tracks that you recorded at
Rockfield Studios in Wales earlier this year? It’s a studio with a lot of
history. What was it like recording there compared to here in N
Ireland?
PHIL – The reason we went to Rockfield is because a
friend of ours works in Rockfield from time to time. He’d been following us and
when we played in London the last time we had a conversation in The Crow Bar
about three o’clock in the morning he suggested that we should go somewhere else
rather than Northern Ireland. There’s nothing wrong with the studios in Northern
Ireland whatsoever, but the only problem with them is that there are no studios
in the North that you can actually set up as a full band and record in a live
situation. There are studios in the UK where you can do that and Rockfield,
obviously of course you can. He got us into Rockfield and we thought we’ll take
a chance and go over and do it. We went over and recorded a lot of songs and
we’ve selected a few to put out on an EP just for starters.
NI
ROCKS – How many are on
the EP?
PHIL – There are four songs on the EP.
NI
ROCKS – We’re going to
play three during the show then. We’ll play one now. Which one would you like to
play first?
PHIL – “Penny For Your Dirty Mind”
NI
ROCKS – It’s been
around for a wee while. Tell us about it.
PHIL – It’s been around for a while, but we recorded it
in demo fashion at home. When we got to Rockfield we re-arranged it and
NI
ROCKS – I think most
people who knew the band knew that the announcement of the end of Million Dollar
Reload wouldn’t be the end of the band, although there were a few distressed
fans on Facebook etc. There have been a couple of interviews with yourself or
Brian and it is clear the change reflects a new musical direction and the desire
to make a fresh start. How easy a decision was that?
PHIL – Really easy. Decision is nearly the wrong word.
It was kind of organic the way it happened. There was no pre-meditated “oh,
let’s go this way”; it’s just the way the songs were going. As you know we lost
a guitar player a while ago and we had tried to go in this direction, but it
wasn’t really his bag as such, so when circumstances prevailed that he was gone
from the band it was really, really easy to jump into what we wanted to do.
Don’t get me wrong, Million Dollar Reload for the past seven or eight years is
exactly what we wanted to do. There are no regrets about anything at all. Every
song was recorded the way we wanted and written the way we wanted. It’s just
that we’ve moved on. It’s as simple as that. There’s no scientific reason behind
it.
NI
ROCKS – Which brings me
on nicely to my next question. As you know one of my favourite Million Dollar
Reload tracks has been “President Joe” which never appeared on an album. Was
that track an early indication of the path the band was taking?
PHIL – Absolutely. You could say “President Joe” was
the first indication of the direction that we should have went a while ago and
it’s probably the first track that I wrote that was an indication of where we
were going to go. It was a laid back more bluesy song.
NI
ROCKS – As you know I
love it. I’ve videoed it being played twice but never published the videos as we
agreed I wouldn’t.
PHIL – Yeah, it has evolved a little bit more actually
with the piano in it. The song was recorded for the “A Sinner’s Saint” album but
it didn’t make the album because I just wasn’t happy with it at that point. It
was missing something and now it’s ready. It’ll be on the album whenever we
decide to put it out.
NI
ROCKS – We’ve been
joined by Nik who tells me she has seen you one more time that I have, thou I’m
not convinced.
NIK – I have. He’ll have seen you 50 times tonight and
I’ll have seen you 51 times.
PHIL – What!! You’ve seen us 50 times! Holy shit! Where
was the first time you saw us?
NIK – I told him the first time he was going to see
you - “you’re gonna like these guys”. I saw you here in The
Empire.
PHIL – I thought the first time I saw you was in The
Nerve Centre when we had an American band over (The Black Mollys in October
2008) and your hair was a lot longer at that time.
NIK – No he was with me in The Nerve Centre, I was on
my own the first time.
(NI ROCKS - For the
record my first time seeing Million Dollar Reload was on 27th Oct 2007 when they
supported Kiss tribute Hotter Than Hell in The Empire – the show in The Nerve
Centre was my second time.)
PHIL – You’re playing Blackberry Smoke! (on the sound
system in The Empire).
NIK – Yes, I know you like them.
PHIL – Keep an eye out for what’s happening with
them.
NI
ROCKS – Yes, tonight is
my fiftieth and last time seeing you. A nice number to end on! There are more
tracks recorded at Rockfield presumably ready for a new album. When are we going
to see that and what form is it going to take?
PHIL – There was an album’s worth recorded at
Rockfield. It’s going to take a little while for the Blackwater Conspiracy thing
to get a bit of momentum. There’s no point putting it out straight away if
people don’t know who we are. It’s kinda like starting from scratch again, but
in a different way. Insofar as we’re not kids anymore, we know how the business
works; we know what we need to do to get to a point where we’re ready to put it
out.
NIK – You’re saying it’s more mature music then?
(laughs)
PHIL – (Laughs) No, it’s not more mature at all. It’s
just what it is. Age appropriate! (All laugh).
NI
ROCKS – Million Dollar
Reload of course had a history of successful tours and performances including
America and Download on three occasions. I’m sure that you have a lot of the
contacts from then so when are we likely to see the band out on the
road?
PHIL – Well, we’re actually in the middle of sorting a
new tour out at the minute, so if it all works out we’ll be on a UK and European
tour in November and December. If not, we’ll definitely be on tour later on in
the year. It’s going to take a little while for everybody to say this is
Blackwater Conspiracy blah, blah, blah. We’re under no pressure this time. Every
other time we were doing things we were committed to a label where we were
committed to do certain things or an agent where we committed to certain things.
We’ve still the same manager, we’re going to keep that guy. But everything is a
lot more chilled, so we don’t feel any pressure to do anything. We’re just going
to do it and whatever happens will happen.
NI
ROCKS – We’ll play
another track from the new EP now. Again, I’ll let you pick one and tell us
about it.
PHIL – This is a song called “Roll The Dice”. It’s
basically a tune that was a real sticker from the start because we wanted to
write a song that says alright we’re going to take a chance here, if it works it
works, if it doesn’t it doesn’t; but this is what we’re doing. “Roll The Dice”
is taking that chance.
NI
ROCKS – Acknowledging
that a lot of the Million Dollar Reload tracks didn’t sit well with the newer
material and new sound, do you think there will ever be the
temptation to play some of the others live, or is that it, after tonight they’re
gone.
PHIL – If you’ve noticed because you’ve been to a few
of the shows over the past year we have been slowly wheeling out a lot of the
Million Dollar songs and introducing newer songs that are slated for Blackwater
Conspiracy. There are one or two tunes that we will retain because I want to
retain them. We’ve reworked them slightly with Kev on piano and keyboards. There
are one or two tunes that will be a stable part of the set. I don’t think it’ll
take much of a guess to say which one that would definitely be because it has
been our biggest song ever. It’s helped us along the way and we’re just going to
keep it, because we want to. It’s as simple as that. Everybody in the bad agreed
that we wanted to keep that song, so we’re going to keep it.
NI
ROCKS – Have you been
writing more tracks since returning from Rockfield and has the writing process
changed at all with the addition of Kevin on keyboards?
PHIL – The writing process has changed insofar as, if
I’m writing a particular tune, I’m writing it with in mind that there’s a
piano, keyboard, humming organ or whatever to be integrated into the sound. It
leaves a lot more variety, as far as I’d be concerned. There have been certain
songs, for instance off “A Sinner’s Saint” there was “Broken” and off “Anthems
of a Degeneration” there was “Travel” and there was piano on both of those
tunes, but to incorporate it live was always difficult. Now it won’t be
difficult. So songs of that genre will be easier. I’m not saying we’re going to
write a lot of ballads, because we’re not, but the keyboard gives us a lot more
flexibility. And the sound has changed. It’s not just as in-your-face heavy
anymore, that’s just not what we’re about anymore. That’s just the way it
is.
NI
ROCKS – Looking
forward, where would you hope to be with the new band and what would you have
hoped to have achieved by this time next year?
PHIL – As far as looking forward and achievements as
such, there are no real targets to set. We’re just going to do what we do and
see where it goes and then at that point if something happens we can maybe
capitalise on it. At the moment we’re just kinda finding our feet with the new
sound and the new songs. We’re going to play the gigs we’ve done in the past; if
we get a few tours and festivals here and there that’s great, but there is no
real plan as such.
NI
ROCKS – Rock music fans
can be an opinionated and critical bunch and social media is what it is. How
much attention do you pay to what you read on-line?
PHIL – We see everything that is written on-line and
any band that says they don’t read it are lying. Whether you take personal
offence to it is another thing. For us there can be times you say “that guy
doesn’t know what he’s talking about” but at the end of the day if anybody who
writes anything or says anything has an opinion and it’s invalidated, it’s up to
them. As long as we’re comfortable with what we’re doing it’s fine. Anybody can
say what they want. If you’re thick skinned it’s fine, if you’re thin skinned
and take everything to heart you’re going nowhere. The thing about it is, and
every band will tell you, they only ever remember the bad reviews or someone
saying something bad about them and they never remember the good things. I could
tell you now all the bad reviews and I can’t remember the good
reviews.
NI
ROCKS – I’m sure there
weren’t that many bad ones.
PHIL – Oh there was. There were a few.
NI
ROCKS – Finally, what
music are you listening to yourself these days and is there anything out there
that influences your own writing?
PHIL – What I’m listening too and what influences me
are completely different. I can’t really speak for Brian. It’s usually me and
Brian get together to knock out a new tune or whatever, and Kie maybe from time
to time. I can’t really speak for what Brian listens too, but at the minute I’m
listening to the same stuff I’ve always listened to – AC/DC, Aerosmith, Black
Crowes etc. That will never change. As far as influencing the songs goes;
there’s nothing really that influences me as such, apart from one dude. He sat
me down one night in Germany and said “Phil, love what you’re doing, think your
music is great, but it’s got a small niche market and there’s only a certain
amount of people will listen to it. If you want to expand a little, I advise you
to do this”. That was Charlie Starr from Blackberry Smoke. It’s quite obvious
that our sound is a little Blackberry Smoke-ish, but it would be unfair to say
that we’re completely influenced by those guys, because we’re
not.
NI
ROCKS – It’s not as
country. Blackberry Smoke’s last album was particularly country rock
sounding.
PHIL – Yeah, they’re deliberately country rock ‘n’
roll. We’re certainly not. We’re still rock and will always be rock. It’s just a
little more laid back and chilled out. We’ve done the whole full-on,
in-your-face AC/DC style thing, and with me being on guitar now it’s just not
practical or feasible for me to do that anymore. It’s just the way it
is.
NI
ROCKS – That’s us done
with the questions. Thanks for taking the time to talk to us. Good luck tonight
and with the new band. We’ll finish off with another new track. Which one shall
we play?
PHIL – This song is called “Hanging Tree” and it’s
probably one of the first songs that I’ve written lyrically that has a social
message in it as such. Everybody has known somebody within their family or
whatever who suffers from maybe not the best self-esteem, a little bit of
depression and stuff. I’ve had that in my family and my life as well. “Hanging
Tree” is about facing your problems head on and trying your best to deal with
them without doing anything that would ruin your own life and your family’s
lives.